|November 21, 2010 - 11:20 AM |
The Euphoric one
|November 21, 2010 - 11:20 AM |
The Euphoric one
|You probably spotted "cupboard" in the text and you may say to yourself,"I suspect that should be wardrobe since it was about L,W&W or maybe coffin".Excellent, you have good, rational critical thinking. A christian however while also suspecting something wrong will have been reared to expect screams of "No, it is divine, immutable, inerrant word from the gods and if you change it you will immediately drop dead and burn in torture". So the poor chap thinks sod it I'll go and watch t.v. The super rational may wonder if I cunningly put cupboard there as a test? No,it was a typo, "I'm only human, born to make mistakes"(H.L.)Rational thought allows past errors to be corrected, upgraded or used to advantage. Same with the Bible. When seen in the light of evolution it becomes possibly one of the funniest writings. I think it will be a source of jokes for as long as humans don't go mad and burn everything. It will be important to preserve all the writings in connection to the bible especially the truely clever critical analysis, as well as the madly clever apologetics? They can help humans not to go off on another delusion. Properly read along side other primitive texts like the more honestly named book of the dead, the bible is a proof of evolution. It is time to stop trying to believe in christianity and graduate to an evolutionary understanding of the old texts|
It's true both sides of the argument should be voiced, what does that say about all the ministers who haven't told the other side? All ministers should read out "JNE" to their congregation along with John Loftus "why I became an atheist" and Dan Barker "godless". Compare Acts 5v15 where people expected to be healed by Peters shadow- to the ancient Egyptian belief that your shadow was your soul. Compare John 20v22 where Jesus breathes on his disciples for them to receive the Holy Spirit -to the Eyptian belief that your breath was your spirit. The Bible is full of primitive/false beliefs
Near his beginning man created the gods, in mans own image he created them, they were a figment of his imagination but they ruled over him and terrorised him. The undue fear of these gods was the beginning of madness but brave men refused to heed the fearful and developed the tools of science and reasoning. They proved beyond doubt that this world is governed not by supernatural gods but by the laws of physics e.g thermodynamics. Mans main biological threat is germs not evil spirits. Worshipping goodness, love, truth, kindness as ideologies is of value but need to be balanced with a no- nonsense attitude. Moderation in all things. Modern laws are based on health and safety considerations as well as the aim to create an orderly society with equality and opportunity for self improvement
Why didn't God just say the Egyptians were right? I believe this is a fatal flaw for the Bible.Just shows what happens when you don't do your history homework. Remember the quip; Acts 7v22, the bible simply isn't true. Well that isn't fair, some bits are historical. Actually the Libyans wore side locks long before the Hebrews. I suppose it was difficult to find new ideas even then though? If you want an in depth theory of how the Egyptian beliefs merged with the Canaanite beliefs out of which the Hebrews religion emerged see Gary Greenberg "The Moses mystery"
Thanks for seconding that. Here is The China Syndrome for the Bible: ACTS ch 7 v22 "Moses was educated in all the wisdom of the Egyptians". What wisdom? Well the Egyptians had mostly good social laws as reflected in The Negative Confession, they viewed pork as unclean, they practiced circumcision, they had a temple lay out similar to that later adopted by the Hebrews, they had ideas of afterlife, heaven/hell and a god of Judgement (Osiris),they had a type of monotheism as introduced by Akhenaten who also rejected the Osiris judgement. So if Moses knew all this already from the Egyptians then what was the story about going up Mt Sinai all about? The person who wrote words into Stephens mouth has made him "full of the Holy Spirt" confess that the old Testament core beliefs are a lie. You will note that all the above ideas are adopted by Moses. Also in Acts 7v38 Stephen says that it was "an angel" who spoke to Moses up Mt Sinai whereas in the O.T it was said to be God himself. Further where did the Egyptians get their wisom? I think they would claim their wisdom was inspired by their Gods- Re, Ptah, Osiris, Aten etc. So you could easily say that Moses followed the teachings of the Egyptian gods and his decision was confirmed by an angel up Mt Sinai. Quite surprising when you consider the O.T. is constantly calling the other gods evil. Maybe evil in the Bible just means competing? After all Yahweh was brother to Baal and probably quite jealous of his big Egyptian cousins too. An explanation for Moses up Sinai with God is that Moses had forgotten the Egyptian laws? Or maybe he just needed a photocopy? Maybe the O.T. is correct and the N.T. a lie? After all Rabbis wisely point out that Christianity is not supported by the Hebrew bible and Jesus didn't fit the criteria of Messiah. However Moses is also proven wrong in claiming his rules made the Hebrews different- they were copying the Egyptians. Why didn't God just simplify things by saying the Egyptians were righ...
An alternative to a religious view is the view that all religions emerged out of previous religions which originally evolved out of primitive superstitions. i.e all religions are man made, there is no supernatural world, no hell, nothing in that department to fear.Probably we cease to exist at death. The earliest ideas about hell seem to originate in Egypt pre 1500BCE though there are signs from human burials that humans wondered about an afterlife pre 10,000BCE .Egyptians probably thought the moon was a god because they saw a face there. They thought their breath was their spirit and that their shadow was their soul. They were guessing!