Monday, 8 August 2011

Bible fiction

What would make you think that the Bible is different from any other fictional writing?
How can you be sure that it isn't just another historical fiction like the novels of Sir Walter Scott ?

How could anyone know what is going on in a heaven, how could anyone know what God said? It is all just the invention of the Bible writers. All the old priests and witchdoctors of the world religions claimed to know what God wanted but inspite of all the theatricals they were just following their own imagination.

There has always been a quarrel about what a god might decree
See the spiritual adultery bible study series
Jeremiah 23v25-29 "I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in God's name. They say,'I had a dream!'...they prophesy the delusions of their own minds"
Jeremiah 14v14 The prophets are prophesying lies in the name of 'God'. God did not send them or speak to them. they are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and delusions of their own minds.
Jeremiah 23v16-18 "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you, they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of a 'God' or 'Lord'. Which of them could have stood in the council of a God to see or hear his Word?
Jeremiah 23v21-22 These prophets have not been sent by a god, they have run with their own message

How could anyone have known what Jesus prayed on the Mt of Olives if all the disciples were asleep? It isn't recorded that Jesus had time to tell them before the guards came or after the alleged resurrection.

The Bible authors have created scenes just like any other scriptwriter. With Shakespearian relish they have written words into the mouths of the Bible characters. The Bible authors put wrote words into Jesus and the disciples mouths and there is no way to be sure that they said anything like it.

The Bible authors have claimed that demons spoke through people but how would you tell that it wasn't just the persons words. What would make you think a supernatural thing was having an influence. I believe there is no supernatural realm. What has happened is that the author created a scene that never happened and put words into the mouth of an imagined demon. Anyone can do that, I'll give you an example:

     I was walking down the street yesterday and a demon appeared unto me.
I said, "Oh hi Bub you old devil, how are you doing",
he said," Oh flaming fabulous, I'm just back from a flaming fantastic holiday to Tasmania, it was flaming hot, I met up with an old flame and we drank too much XXXX and had f'ing great sex, all in all it was raving hedonistic"
I said enviously, 'Sounds great, you're making me feel jealous, but I don't like intense heat'
Bub said, ' Well there was plenty of airconditioning inside and the water was lovely a cool, with shading from the hot sun.'
I says to him, 'Sounds heavenly'
Bub says, 'It was wick ed'

There never were any demons or devils. In pre scientific times people tried to come up with an explanation for illness, epileptic fits, unethical behaviour and they invented the hypothesis of demons. They were wrong about that.

The Bible is actually a really funny book if you believe there is no cosmic God.
Here follows a revised version of some Bible passages from a 'There is no real God' perspective. However remember that it is still possible to explore & imagine the question of what a perfect being would want. This is the value of religious thought- what is the best way to behave, what would a perfectly godly, divine being want. It is very important to try to identify what is the ethical thing to do and to try to live that way.
2 Corinthians 11v13-15 "God's messengers?" They are counterfeits, dishonest practitioners masquerading as messengers of a christ/ saviour. Nor do their tactics surprise me when I consider how ignorance and conditioning and emotional fears masquerade as angels of reason
Eph 4v14 We who listen to the evidence of science and reason shall not be children any longer, tossed one way and another, carried along on every wind of doctrine, at the mercy of all the tricks priests play and their cleverness in practicing deceit. If we live by truth and in love, we shall grow in reason, truth and logic & love.
1 John 2v20 You all have a brain, use it, excercise your common sense and reasoning abilities, be sceptical and ask what is the evidence, you all have a certain amount of spiritual insight, indeed I have not written this warning to you as if I  were writing to people who don't know what error is. I write to you because your eyes are clear enough to discern a lie when you come across it.
Col2v18-19 Do not be taken in by people who imagine there are angels and worship such imaginary beings. A man of this sort is not united with his head.
Acts 20v29-31 watch out for people making a travesty of the truth
Deut 18v20-22 If what a prophet proclaims does not come true then that is a message the lord has not spoken. [Well the Bible has Jesus predict that his kingdom would come in the first century and it hasn't] This is a really interesting verse because it means that you can have a hundred different prophets making random predictions and the one that turns out to be like what actually happens in the future was the 'Word of God' and all the others weren't. You don't know which is a 'true' guess until after the future has been and gone.
   Deutermoronomy 13v1-3 If a prophet comes among you wanting you to follow the practices of other Gods then you are not to follow their instructions. "The lord you God is testing you to find out whether you love him, recognise his voice and follow only his instruction". Well then how come Abraham didn't think when he thought of sacrificing Isaac,' Oh that is just a pagan idea, I'm not doing that, that can't be an instruction from the loving, good God'. Then a real God god would have replied, 'Well done, you have passed the test'
   Jeremiah 9v2-6"Beware of you friends, do not trust your brothers. For every brother is a deceiver and every friend a slanderer. Friend deceives friend, and no one speaks the truth- because it isn't possible to work out a certain conclusion, science can give us some certainty about evolution and the age of life on earth and the state of our universe  but it still hasn't worked out what there was before the big bang. You live in the midst of deception.
   Jeremiah 23v33-36 You must not mention 'the oracle of the Lord' again, because every man's own word becomes his oracle. You are all just guessing about whether there is a good, loving god and what he might want or do or say.
  Jeremiah 5v11 The house of Israel and the house of Judah have lied about 'God'. Their words are but wind and they have no special word from a 'God'
   Lamentations 2v14 " The visions of your prophets were false and worthless. The oracles they gave were false and misleading
  Micah 3v5 As for prophets who lead people astray, if one feeds them, they proclaim 'peace'; if he does not, they prepare to wage war against him"
  Jeremiah 23v30-32  I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, 'The Lord declares'. Indeed I am against those who prophecy false dreams. They tell them and lead people astray with their reckless lies, they were not sent by a God'
  Isaiah  56v 10-11 "Israels watchmen are blind, they all lack knowledge, they are all mute dogs, they cannot bark, they lie around and dream. They are shepherds who lack understanding, they all turn to their own way, each seeks his own gain"
  2 Cor 11v19-20  Don't be tolerant of somebody who makes slaves of you, makes you feed them, imposes on you, orders you about and slaps you in the face, in the name of 'the Lord'
  Ezekial 13v17-19  Now son of man, set your face against the daughters of your people who prophesy out of their own imagination. Speak against them and say, by lying to my people who listen to lies you have killed those who should not have died. You disheartened those with common sense by your lies.
   Jeremiah 23v 25-29   Is not scientific evidence like a hammer which smashes the Bible to pieces

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