Friday 16 December 2011

ASHES TO ASHES

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust
Live if you will, die if you must
Who knows what will happen, when we bust ?
Will everything that is of us, rust ?
Or will our breath, catch a gust ?
And whip us up, into angelic delight ?
To sip, of ambrosia nectar ?
And listen to Jesus strum, on his Sitar ?


Parody on psalm 23
Love is my guiding star
Not old fables quite bizarre
Science & technology are my friend
They are things on which I can depend
Religious fraud leads in a crooked path
makes you cling to nonsense about which the educated laugh
Even though I walk in a world of dangers
microscopes and telescopes have dispelled some peculiar strangers
Scriptural bunk gave me a stinking sore head
But reason was paracetamol that makes me glad I'm not dead
Some say if there is no heaven or hell 
then things for Hitler would work out well
But would you approve if Hitler wanted to make his camps eternal ?
I think such a decision would be infernal
Don't overrate iron age peasants Jesus & Mo
There knowledge was far less than their rampant ego
Jesus sat by his fire predicting the end
With stars falling to Earth when the heavens did end
But we 21st centurians surely know
Stars are massive and distant so that story won't go
Just like the sign of Hezekiah is  a lie complete
As our planet can't reverse to make the shadow retreat
Nor can our days lengthen: Joshua's tale is a fib
And evolution is true so woman didn't come from a rib
It's viruses and bacteria which are a main threat
Microorganisms evolving might beat their nemesis yet.
But the gods are a fiction, a failed hypothesis we made
And realizing the reasons to think this lets me rest in a sunny glade.

A WILDLY (improbable) IMAGINARY HELL

Do some infernal priests say,  I’ll be tormented when I die ?
Will fish hooks tear my eye ?
Will crocodiles  chew  my thigh ?
and ravenous rats savour stomach pie?
Will Piranhas be feasting upon my toes ?
Will Monstrous Triassic  ichneumon, be adding to my woes ?
Will a conga eel, devour my willy ?
I think they’re talking, very silly
When my body’s disappeared, how will I experience that ?
Or will I somehow get, an indestructible body back ?
Do I tread above, a pit of liens
Well The End of Christianity, will devour those lines
You think I’m poised above, a wretched pit
And I must do something, to avoid falling into it
You think I’ll be roasted, on a spit ?
Or perpetually drawn & quartered, unless my resistance, quit
Or in keeping with Geneva convention
Just very lonely like in detention ?

If the ministers trident, has some points on which you are stuck
Then Loftus has great news; you’re in good luck
If the myth of hell has cast it’s spell, and chilled you to the bone
Then Prices books are like hearty soup, to put warmth back into home.
If your head feels like it has been caught, betwixt a rock and  stone
Then give the revy friendly Keith, Parsons a phone
Or enter into dry humour zone
With Christopher Hitchens, ‘ The portable atheist ‘; a weighty tome
If you thought you were walking the plank, above a fiery flame
Then Loftus’ writings will slam, the damper on the same
If your life was being driven, ass by an electric cattle prodder
He’ll take the batteries out, so you can become a plodder
And enjoy a humorous Yule
Instead of stampeding like a crazy mule

Jesus hands were kind hands, that's what I was told But on analyzing the stories I wonder if they were miss sold Ever since I accepted the party line, I'd been feeling kinda low But now I feel muchl happier to realize it is not so Have we been given a rock and told it was a fish ? I nearly broke my teeth on that old rotten pish They set the default position for everyone to go to hell but i'm not ashamed to say that doesn't sit with me too well On the contrary i think a loving god would take us all to a life divine So I hope that whether it is extinction or party, things will work out fine For Jesus to be a hero he'd need to have cancelled hell but to have won the victory yet continued the suffering really doesn't sell What if these stories are mostly fictions, a lot of make believe what is they've used old myths a newer tale to weave What if you've been worrying about stuff that really isn't real Well then you can laugh about it and not longer in such things deal.

WE WISH YOU A MERRY XMAS

We wish you a merry Xmas [repeat 3 times ]
,And a godless (god free) new year
 Good tidings we bring, to you and your king,
 If there is a good God, then we’ll all go to heaven,
 Yes , if there is a good god; then we’ll all go to heaven,
 Or if there is a good god; we might cease to exist.
 Yes if there is a heaven, we’ll all be there,
 But if there is not one, then we will be nowhere,
 But it won’t be the Bible god or the Koran god ,
 It won’t be the Torah god, that I find there

A Sarcaustic prayer. Come let us follow the example that Matthew 5v44 claims that Jesus taught; for us to extend the love of God to those who have acted as enemies to us & pray for them. Our Father who art in hiding, non existent are your works ( at least in recent millennium ) God of inaction & indifference We pray for those who have acted against our interests, as Christ allegedly taught, perhaps with a wry smile on his face ? We pray that you might extend to them your non interventionist policy that we witness 99.999% of the time in the lives of those whom we hold dear. Since this is clearly your will almost all the time & since it is claimed you will never learn or change we pray with great confidence, believing that it is odds on that you will let those who have done acts of extreme anti social, disrespectful behaviour succumb to whatever cancers and disease befalls them. We thank you for the promise that whatever we ask for as long as it is your will will be granted. Though observation of history also shows that those guilty of the cruelest tyranny have often escaped the life shortening illnesses which afflicted the most caring. In any case we pray that you would extend the level of care you bestow on us to our enemies too i.e sweet F' all and multiply the blessings abundantly that you showered us with and pour them on those who persecute us too - as it will still be as naught. We pray that they may not receive help, just as our nearest and dearest also did not receive help. That you might treat these others as you wished your own (possibly chosen ones) to be treated i.e adandoned to the ravages of natural selection God we specifically remember Billy who has spent much of his past few years bullying people, generally acting in a thuggish way and driving like a maniac. In this, his difficult time, now paralyzed from the waist down after the car crash, we thank you that his ability to carry out anti social acts has been much curtailed. We pray that a miraculous healing for him might be as likely as it was for all the other folk in times before modern medicine i.e vanishingly slight. But that never the less he might be held, blessed as we are as a child of your care, every day in the thrall of unanswered prayer, ever looking but never receiving a positive answer. We pray too for Nigel who is in prison for rape & grievous bodily harm. As we sit here shivering in our cold church hall we remember him in his centrally heated cell with it's constant 70 Fahrenheit air temp, with en suite bathroom , sky tv and PS4 game station, clean water and three square meals a day. God help us not to think it is funny that he has just been diagnosed with terminal cancer. We don't know or understand why this didn't happen before he carried out the attacks nor why you are not more consistent in allowing this fate to befall those who have acted in this way but we pray that as with nearly all cancer, that you would let it run its course & that no one would be weak minded enough to fund the thousands of $$$$ worth of chemo therapy it would take to give him a chance. As this seems to have been your will in recent times all we ask is that you might carry on in your unchanging ways at least to those who have caused us grief and unhappiness.

ANCIENT PEOPLE THOUGHT BREATH = SPIRIT

Try reading the ancient Egyptian papyrus of Ani 1500BCE. Those people thought their breath was their spirit. See Ecclesiastes 3v19 Mans fate is the same as the animals, all have the same breath / spirit, John 20v22 Jesus breathed on his disciples and said 'Receive the holy spirit', Job 37v10 The breath of God produces ice.  Interesting to look at Acts 2v2 talking of arrival of Holy Spirit- "Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the house" Anyway  where is heaven? Where did the wind come from. Up in the sky? How could you know where it came from?  Look at on-line Bible Biblos.com Gen 1v2 the Hebrew word for 'Spirit of God' is the same as 'wind'. Bible was written in pre-scientific culture where people guessed at basic things. They thought spirit / breath forced into you to make you alive.

 Try  Biblos Gen 1v2 & look at index for Hebrew of Spirit of God. Same word used in Psalm 51v11 'take not your Holy Spirit' from me  just means don't take life giving breath away or I will die. See John19v30 "Jesus bowed head and gave up his spirit" = breathed his last?
Well if you go to Biblos and look at Acts 7v59 where Stephen says "Jesus receive my spirit (pneuma)"= breathed his last fits well, then look through other references of pneuma. In Rev 11v11 there is a story where many people are struck down dead then v11 But after 3.5 days a BREATH OF LIFE (pneuma) from God entered them, and they stood on their feet. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them "come up here" [Richard Branson?] & they went up to heaven in a cloud [Spaceship One ?]. The End is nigh?

Also 1 Corinthians 14v14 For if I pray in a tongue my spirit (pneuma) prays  but my mind is unfruitful. V15 So what will I do?  I will pray with my spirit (pneuma), but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit but I will also sing with my mind
John 3v8 The Wind (pneuma) blows wherever it pleases.

Ezekiel 37v5 The sovereign lord says to these dry bones: I will make breath (this word can mean wind or spirit) enter you, and you will come to life. I will attach tendons to you and make flesh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the Lord. V9 come from the 4 winds, o breath, and breathe into these slain, that they may live. So I prophesied as he commanded and breath entered them; they came to life v14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live.

MATERIAL GIRL OR FANTASY MAN ?

We wish you a merry Xmas,
We wish you a merry Xmas
We wish you a merry Xmas
And a godless New Year
[ alternatives- And a freethinking New Year / And a god free New Year ]
Good tidings we bring , to you and your kin
The future is bright , so be of good cheer.
If there's a heaven, we'll all be there
And if there's a good God, we'll all be there
But probably, there is no supernatural realm
So we'll go no where.
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Madonna , ' Material girl ' [parody , as sung by a believer in orthodoxy ]
People try to tell me reasons, why ,what I believe ain't true
But my minister, and his flock, tell me not, to listen, to you
You try to tell me reasons why what I believe ain't true
But my fearful thoughts and apologetics won't allow me to listen to you
Cause, I live in a fantasy land, and I worship a fantasy man
Yeh, I live in a fantasy world, which is why I call myself, Christian
[ However maybe many who call themself Christian do have strong belief in the idea of being loving & caring & the good samaritan. But maybe when it comes to reality it is more about being careful, doing your job well. Being good for goodness sake or just helping others cause it makes you feel good, or as a return favour or to gain their favour]

John Loftus shows me many bits, where what the Bible says ain't true
But fearfulness like paranoia hinders me listening to him
So I'm stuck in a fantasy world and I worship a cosmic tyrant
Yeh I'm stuck in the Bibleverse suffering from stockholms syndrome.

I CLOSED MY EYES DREW BACK THE CURTAIN

Andrew Lloyd Weber, "Any dream will do" from Joseph & amazing dreamcoat

I closed my eyes, whaaahh, Drew back the curtains, aaaarghh
To see for certain, whaahhh, what I thought I knew
But fears like paranoia, stops me from perceiving aaaahhh
Any different ideas aaahhh, only one nightmare / dream will do
I thought I must believe, what I'd been told to think
Or else I'd disappear, down the hole of a sink
Yes I thought I needed to hold the absolute correct doctrine
or I'd be damned for not believing fantasy ,fiction


One of the best bits in the Bible says:
Romans 12v17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay" etc - quote from Deuteronomy 32v35, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them."
So why didn't the God of the Israelites give a commandment 6b If there is any terminating needing done I the Almighty, all powerful god will do it all by myself and I don't need henchmen, I don't want people to pick up weapons against each other ever. I am perfectly capable of supernaturally teleporting people up to my judgment seat when they are about to commit serious crime. Or maybe I will just speak personally to each person to reason with them and convince them to behave in a civilized manner.
The Bible gives examples of what you would expect if there was a real god doing real stuff e.g Acts 5v1-11 has Ananias & Sapphira drop dead, Acts 10v11 has the Lord hurl hailstones on the Amorites.
Why didn't the Levites in Exodus 32v27 refuse to slay those who were undecided about "following" God , saying to Moses, "Well you just gave us commandment no. 6, Do not murder, so we are afraid you got your orders mixed up and we might break that commandment. Also if God shows himself reliably to be of real benefit then i'm sure everyone will be queuing up for stuff and being really grateful soon enough"
Note Exodus 32v35 has the Lord striking with plague those responsible for making the golden calf. Though it could have just been a coincidence and no one in the Bible understood microbiology or gave understanding as to how to make antibiotics or how they work. So anyway why didn't Moses just say that the protection of the Lord would be removed from those who made the golden calf and they would get plague, instead of telling the Levites to attack their fellow Israelites? Also it is odd that Exodus 2v12 has Moses so concerned for the life of the Israelites but in Exodus 32 he acts just as badly as the slave drivers he criticised. Why didn't Moses just try to reason with the slave driver or his superiors to get better treatment of the Israelites ? Why didn't he warn of a supernatural punishment by god rather than pick up a weapon himself?

CLIMB EVERY MOUNTAIN

From  ' The Sound of music '  [how come Maria doesn't make skeptic observations of the Bible. How come she doesn't say, " I'm leaving the convent because i've been reading Robert Ingersoll & Thomas Paine & Democritus and I've realised that the orthodox image of God is not truly loving or godly or good but rather tyrannical. In any case I think that Charles Darwins theory of evolution rather disproves the Bible idea of creation & original sin and therefore it becomes obvious that the Bible is mostly mythical and probably based on astrology and previous primitive religions & god delusions. So bye I'm off to study science & reason not proto thought"]
Climb every mountain
Read high and low
Read the books of Robert Ingersoll
Then you will be free

Climb mount Improbable
Ford every stream
Read the books of Richard Dawkins
Then you’ll find your dream

If you want to be loving, then conclude that hell is myth
That doctrine is damnable, a good god wouldn't do it

Climb every mountain
Be sceptical of old writ
It contains ideas, barbaric
You can think better than it

Don’t believe the Bible
Its mostly faction
Only pick out the good bits
Like the golden rule

A loving God wouldn’t do hades, he’d take everyone to heaven
But probably there are no gods, so why worry about them

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Dawkins brings the extra dimension to the debate about religion. By proposing the model, " There is no cosmic God " he gives 3 D vision to analysis of religion.
           Have you seen the 3D film version of " Life of Pi "? If you watch it without glasses it just looks blurred. This could be an analogy to what the Bible looks like if you thought it was inspired by a God but with Dawkins' 3D specks,       " We evolved by natural selection, the Bible is 100% human guesswork, 0% divine inspiration ",  then the data fits into place without a whole load of excuses.
           In the Life of Pi you could maybe see the tiger as Abrahamic religions. Your father tells you to fear it. It gets into your boat by accident, it can drive you crazy and you don't know whether to stay in the boat with it or to jump out. There comes a point when you try to get it out of your boat, maybe you do manage to exclude it,  but because you never  
found a different explanation for it , you let it back in again even though it eats up your life and makes it more difficult. As your thinking develops and you see different aspects of it you maybe begin to see it as a human / organic creation and learn to tame it.. Eventually it just becomes an irrelevance that leaves and is forgotten about.
           1 Kings 7v23 gives a value of Pi as 3 .  " He made a sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim.... It took a line of thirty cubits to measure round it . " A bit sloppy from the creator of the universe ? Was the universe fine tuned with Pi = 3 ? How come the film doesn't mention this ?
             The best line in the film is from Pi's father who says, " Science has done more for humanity in a few hundred years than religion did in 10,000 ". However the same man criticizes Pi for embracing 3 religions simultaneously whereas if anything i would say it was intelligent to know and compare what each said.
              Like Dawkins said ~ ' just because you hope something will be real doesn't make it true '. If you know the atheist position then it gives the freedom to dream and fantasize a little but still keep your feet grounded in reality. If you only have the indoctrinated black and white position of orthodoxy then you could be imprisoned by it. However if you took the view, " I'm going to live a decent life and go to heaven " , isn't that quite positive ? People go with the flow for an easier life if they're not too troubled by it.

parody on EVERYTHING STOPS FOR TEA

Do you know the parody " Everything stops for tea "song by Goodhart, Hoffman & Sigler ? Here is my rendition, see Youtube original :
"Now I know just  why Franz Schubert didn't finish his unfinished symphony, he might have written more but the clock struck four and everything stopped for tea.


Now I know just why Christ Jesus
never got round to explaining properly
he would have explained some more but he got hungry
and they all ate fish for tea

Now I know just why Christ Jesus
never got round to explaining properly
It was probably because we all evolved
And his culture was primitive intellectually

Oh I'm not sure why Christ Jesus
 never got round to explaining properly
But it might have been because there are no Gods
And he was just guessing; like you and me

Oh I'm not sure why Christ Jesus
 never got round to explaining properly
He might have told us more but the clock struck 12
And they all disappeared back to fantasy

No, I'm not sure why Christ Jesus
never got round to explaining properly
But  it might have been because the cock struck 3
And they all denied reality

Yes, I really wonder why Christ Jesus
never told us any useful science, history or technology
But it might have been because he never existed
And the whole thing is historical fiction fantasy

No, I'm not sure why Christ Jesus
never got round to explaining properly
But it might have been because the cock struck 6
and they all washed fervidly / fervently / frantically, take your pick

MASTER CHEF OF THE BIBLEVERSE

When I was a child I swallowed the Bible
Now I've digested, deliberated and cogitated the Bible
I've absorbed the good bits and ejected the shit
All you need from the Bible is the Golden Rule, be caring, don't hurt anyone.
 Don't name call but instead aim to speak in emotionally literate terms. You'll note that the Bible writers never got round to understanding such things because the language of their culture was at a more primitive stage.


Pope Francis quoted Matthew 24v20,“the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from the sky, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.” which is quoting Isaiah 13v10 but the authors of those scriptures lived in pre -scientific times and knew very little about the universe around them. There is no chance of the sun being darkened for millions of years yet, the moon has no light of it's own but only reflects sunlight. If the sun was dark then we would not see the moon. Stars are far larger than Earth so there is no chance of them falling to Earth. If the Earth moved closer to the Sun life on Earth would soon die but no chance of that either. The authors had no comprehension of how far away the stars are. In what way could the heavens be shaken ? The only way to make sense of such a passage would be to redefine what the words meant. Did stars just mean asteroids or meteors ?
Maybe Pope Francis could have recommended that people who think Jesus was a prophet would do well to read about his ideas as recorded in the New Testament and at least pick out his best ones. I would recommend John 13v34, "A new commandment I give unto you: Love one another" or the golden rule of Matthew 7v12,"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the law and the prophets" ( though the golden rule existed long before the first century ) How about Romans 13v10 ( though it is uncertain who the author was ) "Love does no harm to its neighbour. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law"
What about 1 John 3v14,"We know we have passed from death to life because we love our brothers. Anyone who does no love remains in death. Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him" ? However I think this way of thinking is overly generalised. It is possible to have very mixed emotions towards another person, you can strongly agree with one thing they did or said and the next moment strongly disapprove of another thing they did or said. Also if you rightly view murder as abhorent then how can you approve of the idea of a hell ? A universalist view would be that a loving god would either take everyone to a happily ever after or let them cease to exist at death but are there any gods at all ?
Pope Francis might also have pointed out that a real god would do any terminating all by itself and would not need us humans to pick up weapons against each other. In fact there are examples in the Bible stories of supernatural terminations eg Exodus 32v25. Deuteronomy 32v35 has god say, "It is mine to avenge, I will repay all by myself" Ok I took some liberties there and altered it slightly, but I consider it an improvement. In the Exodus 32 story I think that Moses was seriously mistaken to order the Levites to slay their fellow Israelites if Moses imagined god was able to target those responsible for the golden calf with plague. Why didn't the Levites refuse to follow Moses order, saying that they feared it would be considered by god to be murder ? The story may be mostly fictional anyway.

FREETHINKING HERO IS SOMETHING TO BE

John Lennon’s
Working class hero: Amended, apologies to the original
As soon as you’re born, they make you feel small
By giving you little information and pretending that’s all
Til the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A good Christian man is something to be ?
A  one sided perspective is something for me ?
They hurt you at home and they hit you in Church
They despise what’s clever and they mock what they think different
Til you’re so fucking crazy you can only follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
An enlightened atheist is something to be
When they’ve tortured & scared you for 20 odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can’t really function you’re are so full of fear
A modern civilized person is something to be
A freethinking hero is something to be
Keep you doped with religion; it’s  myth and tv
And you think you’re so clever and classless and free
But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I see
But read Dennis McKinsey then you will see
But read Joseph Wheless then you will see
There’s room up in heaven, they are telling you still
But first you must learn to lie as you smile
If you want to be like the folks in the church.
But when you’ve read Richard Dawkins then you will see
But when you’ve read Robert Price then you will see
If you want to be a hero then just read John Loftus.

[ whose fault was it that I didn't  ask everyones opinion instead of assuming? Whose fault that I didn't ask for freethought books? Probably mostly mine ? ]

WORKING CLASS HERO ?

As soon as  you’re  born they make you feel small
By giving you little information and pretending that’s all
Til the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A good Christian child is something to be ?
A  one sided perspective is something for me ?

As soon as  you’re little they make you feel ill
By telling you that, you’re all heading for hell
Unless you can manage to roll up a hill
A modern bright person is something to be
A sceptic thinking hero is something to be


Well now  I’ve  read the books of Loftus and Price
And I think that they are mostly all very nice
And about old Writ they have made me think thrice
A working class hero is something to be
An enlightened atheist is something to be

Well they have told all the reasons to think that hell is a myth
And shown that there’s no good reason to think it exists
So I’m puzzled as to why that damnable doctrine persists.
A modern civilized person is something to be
A freethinking hero is something to be

Well if you’ve been worrying for 20 odd years
And if it has blighted all your career
Then here are the reasons to allay your fear.
Why didn’t Lennon mention Russell, Wheless or Paine
Maybe he feared the trouble it would get him in?

If you want to be a hero then just follow Humphreys
If you want to be a hero then just follow Dawkins

[ why didn’t I ask myself, why has Lennon written those lyrics? What reasons does he have to support that idea? What does he know that I don’t? What has he read that I haven’t? I've been too stuck in myself, my own wee world, listening to voices of scorn, too sluggish of thought]

JESUS CHRIST IS ALIVE TODAY ?

Jesus Christ is alive today
I doubt, if that is true
That he’s really mucked us up
I’ll give him credit due
Is he seated at God’s right hand ?
Or are you headed into loony land
Jesus Christ is alive today
I think, that is not true


Parody on "He's everything to me"
In the stars amazing things I see insights of how we evolved to be forces that govern over land and sea it is astonishing to me ! I will remember nativity For the story had a place in history Science can set all children free To live the best we can be Til I noticed the errors in scripture and realized many ideas in there were a disgrace Then I knew He was a god who just wasn't there who was just made up by folk down here Now I walk in reality day by day Free to make the most of my own sweet way Science & reason helps me to find a better way Technology is everything to me.

MYSTIC RUNES

I’ve been studying  mystic Runes
Were they composed by  early goons ?
Or a species like gorilla ?
Wearing bowler hat with umbrella ?
Or some double minded fella ?
Or other primitive, superstitious folk ?
who of their error couldn’t see the joke
Such people fought hell for leather,
 for someone else’s blether
That I now find gives me delight
To poke fun at, where it is not bright

To see yer creed as others see it
Is the sight for which Price gees ye The wit
Dawkins, Dennett and many others
Help split the right into many colours
Which could save us from much bovver
And maybe we could see and love more as brother
 Instead of always being up in arms
Over irrelevant, reverent qualms

WARNING CONTAINS STRONG ELEMENTS OF FICTION

Nativity scenes should have a discreet written warning: "Caution, contains strong elements of fiction. Always consult Doctor Price before drinking from the well of fantasy. Symptoms of poisoning include unwarranted anxiety & euphoria, if not they, then those around them may experience nausea. Antidote : ' The reason driven life '
Old Father Pricemas puts the fun back into Christmas by taking the sting out of its tale. Give your loved ones a cracker of a Xmas by giving the gift of the priceless,' Reason driven life', which will make life go with a bang and fit us all for heaven, if there's one there. TRDL -only $17.45-a down to earth price for heaven on earth.

I'll be laughing on the other side of my face if Christ comes through the clouds on his sleigh with a heigh ho, heigh ho, it's back to work we go. Heigh maybe he will come down my chimney, but he might look like a white & black minstrel. Probably his robes are non stick & self cleaning though. Maybe he'll delegate to his dwarves. Maybe instead of bringing presents he'll take us all up to heaven! Fantastic. I hope his wounds have healed up by now. Probably, unless it required prayer.

I’m ok about Jesus coming down my chimney but if he appears in my bedroom singing, “ Jesus loves you this I know “, I will tell him, “ No thanks mate , go and find someone else to love,  you’ve buggered my life too much already, you’re not coming back in again.  No one gets to sneak in  my back passageway, fly away back to heaven “. Then I’ll wake up and realise it was only a queer dream but write it down as if it really happened because obviously dreams are made in heaven.
[actually it was quite dark so I didn't see him too well but I felt his presence ]

Friday 9 December 2011

Big Chief Black & White writing Bull

December 09, 2011 - 03:58 PM
BIG CHIEF BLACK & WHITE WRITING BULL


Him [ colloquially : John], Write Revelations, How!? Thoth; Great Spirit of Sky, help.
Him see things no mere Indian can see, Him see visions, fortune tell.
Him write Rev 12v4 Heap Big dragon knock third of stars from sky down to earth, Heap big lightning & thunder & blood. Rev 13v7, Next day everybody go to work as normal but with Mark Of Beast on forehead 666, Rev14v9. Then Rev 13v11 Beast speak like a dragon [ what would that be like? The X?]. More heap big earthquake, plague, screaming & wailing.
Rev 16v8 Angel pour bowl of blood on Sun & it scorch people with fire- them seared by much heat- them complain like Brits in Ibiza; “bloody hot” .v 10 Men gnaw their tongues in agony [ well that is hardly going to help ]
Rev 20v13 Sea will give up the dead that were in it.
Him speak with forked tongue. This message inspired by Holy Spirit, anyone tamper with message; he much dead; him suffer 6th death- more terrible than scalping. You look at John’s face & see mad staring eyes, You know He inspired ! Fear of lord=beginning of wisdom.
HOW !?

Mary Pop Rap: Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

VIRGIN MARY POP RAP : SUPERCALVARY,S,IN,CHRIFTMAKESMEALLADuhCious

 Jesus Christ, the Christians say, makes them alidocious
But the doctrine of hell sounds simply quite atrocious
If there was a loving God , he’d take us all to heaven
What sort of monstrous tyrant are you willing to believe in?
Dumb riddle diddlE dumb dumb dumb lie, Dumb diddlE riddle dumb dumb dumb lie * 2
For Jesus to be a hero, he’d need to save everyone, That they say he’ll damn the most, Just makes me feel quite glum,
How can you claim God is love, Then claim that he’d do that
Fortunately I can reveal  those thoth started in ancient duat
chorus
If you thought it’d save your bacon, would you make other people fry
Just because an ancient priest claimed he’d seen Christ fly up in the sky
What if most of those thoths were merely lunatic
I’m sorry but I have to say they seem really rather sick
chorus
A loving god would save us all & take us all to heaven
That’s the only sort of god, I’m willing to believe in
If there was a  loving god ,then all would turn out well
Only a Nazi Hitlerite would send a man to hell.

Wednesday 7 December 2011

WE THREE KINGS OF ORIENT ARE

November 16, 2011 - 05:22 PM
That will be shining right.


We three kings of orient are,
Travelling in spirals as we follow a star,
Why have we been led to Herod's home?
That seems to us rather dim
Oh star of wonder, star of night,
Is anything in the Bible right?
Read the book of Ken Humphreys
And you will become, far more bright

Also follow the wise words of astronomer Victor J. Stenger, to see the light.

Matt 2v2 If the Magi came from Persia they would have needed a star in the west (not east,just wait til dawn?) for it to guide them to Jerusalem. Maybe the Magi were from Rome & looked toward Israel in evening & saw Jupiter in the east hanging over Jerusalem?
The star had been so vague that they gave up & asked the nearest king for directions.Oddly Herod told them where to find Christ, then asked them to return to tell him were Christ was. Then the star became lazer guided and swung from low in the west to low in the south to lead them 6 miles south down the road to Bethlehem. So was it an angel or a satellite sucked back in time from 2011 or a bright idea? If an angel, then why did they say it rose? Were Magi in the habit of travelling at night?


That was a lovely version thanks, beautiful voice & playing Here is a parody on the lyrics: We three kings of Orient are selling petrol, diesel and tar paraffin and liquefied natural gas and other fractional distillates Used to be we made great profits but these have shrunk from unforeseen market forces fracking in the U.S.A and a downturn in global commodity markets O Star of wonder, star of light How come the ancients didn't get it right ? They never prophesied about the oil fields under our feet How they got there or the uses of them. Frankincense but no common sense have I Preaching fairy stories akin to alibi Knowing little of modern astronomy Explains books like Deutermoronomy

SHAMAN WHO WROTE BIBLE TOUGHT BREATH = SPIRIT


December 06, 2011 - 03:26 PM
Did Big Chief red sitting Bull write the Bible?


How different was the view of the world held by Bible writers from that of North American Red Indians? Was their understanding any better?

Try reading the ancient Egyptian papyrus of Ani 1500BCE. Those people thought their breath was their spirit. See Ecclesiastes 3v19 Man’s fate is like that of the animals, all have the same breath / spirit;… man has no advantage over the animal. John 20v22 Jesus breathed on his disciples and said 'Receive the holy spirit', Job 37v10 The breath of God produces ice.  Interesting to look at Acts 2v2 talking of arrival of Holy Spirit- "Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the house" Anyway  where is heaven? Where did the wind come from. Up in the sky? How could you know where it came from?  Look at on-line Biblos com Gen 1v2 the Hebrew word for 'Spirit of God' is the same as 'wind'. Bible was written in pre-scientific culture where people guessed at basic things. They thought spirit / breath forced into you to make you alive. How much different was the outlook of priests who wrote the Bible from that of the North American Indians ?



December 06, 2011 - 03:08 PM
Shaman who wrote Bible thought breath=spirit


Try  Biblos com Gen 1v2 & look at index for Hebrew of Spirit of God. Same word used in Psalm 51v11 'take not your Holy Spirit' from me  just means don't take life giving breath away or I will die. See John19v30 "Jesus bowed head & gave up his spirit" = breathed his last?
Well if you go to Biblos com & look at Acts 7v59 where Stephen says "Jesus receive my spirit (pneuma)"= breathed his last fits well, then look through other references of pneuma. In Rev 11v11 there is a story where many people are struck down dead then v11 But after 3.5 days a BREATH OF LIFE (pneuma) from God entered them, & they stood on their feet. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them "come up here" [Richard Branson?] & they went up to heaven in a cloud [Spaceship One ?]. The End is nigh? Prophesy right enough !


December 06,  Bible writers thought their breath was their spirit

From Biblos com online Bible
Also 1 Corinthians 14v14 For if I pray in a tongue my spirit (pneuma) prays  but my mind is unfruitful. V15 So what will I do?  I will pray with my spirit (pneuma), but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit but I will also sing with my mind
John 3v8 The Wind (pneuma) blows wherever it pleases.

Ezekiel 37v5 The sovereign lord says to these dry bones: I will make breath (this word can mean wind or spirit) enter you, & you will come to life. I will attach tendons to you & make flesh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, & you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the Lord. V9 come from the 4 winds, o breath, & breathe into these slain, that they may live. So I prophesied as he commanded & breath entered them; they came to life v14 I will put my Spirit in you & you will live.

Has Hollywood escapism trapped US in Christ fantasy ?


December 07, 2011 - 04:51 PM Has Hollywood escapism trapped US in Christ fantasy?

  Has Hollywood censored most opinions skeptical of Bible ? In the 1959 "Sound of Music" musical it could have been that Maria makes her 1930s decision to leave the Abbey based on enlightenment views. If she had been reading Albert Schweitzer 1906, David Strauss 1860, Darwin 1859, Nietzshe 1888, even Ingersoll 1872, Wheless 1925.
If Maria had read such skeptical writing would the nuns have scolded her : "You behaved badly"? or praised "Oh how interesting to look at the whole argument"
The real life story of Maria on Wikipedia is more down to earth than the film. Sounded too fantastic to be true ?
What other Hollywood films have touched on religious matters but shied away from any real criticism ? Was that due to hard headed business- feared to risk effecting sales by including thoughts that the majority might feel annoyed about? Or they were ignorant of skeptic writings ? The films are about escapism not harsh reality ? Maybe we would escape to a brighter reality if most embraced the theory of evolution & freethought? Dawkins has written a good book, 'The magic of reality'



MATERIAL GIRL parody

December 05, 2011 - 06:08 PM
Beam me up Jesus :-}



Madonna , ' Material girl ' [parody , as sung by a believer in orthodoxy ]

Hitchens tells me reasons, where ,what I believe ain't true
But my minister, and his fluffy flock, tell me to walk away from you.
Mills tries to tell me reasons why, what I believe ain't true
But my fearful thoughts and apologetics won't allow me to listen to you
Cause, I live in a fantasy land, and I worship a fantasy man
You know, I live in a fantasy world, which is why I call myself, Christian

Sam Harris shows me many bits, where what the Bible says ain't good
But fearfulness like paranoia stop me listening to what I should [repeat]
So I'm stuck in a fantasy world and I worship a cosmic tyrant
You know, I'm stuck in the Bibleverse, suffering from stockholms syndrome.
[ However maybe many who call themself Christian do have strong belief in the idea of being loving & caring & the good samaritan. But maybe when it comes to reality it is more about being careful, doing your job well. Being good for goodness sake or just helping others cause it makes you feel good, or as a return favour or to gain their favour ?]

MY FAVOURITE THINGS are music to my ears

December 05, 2011 - 05:27 PM
My favourite things are Music to my ears.    


     Books by freethinkers like Robert M. Price
Thoughts by bright scientists like Daniel C. Dennett
Brown paper packages bearing such things
These are just some of my favourite things [ repeat with other fav. authors]
When the priest calls
When the minister preaches
When their thought makes me feel sad
I simply remember my favourite thoughts
And then I don’t feel so bad
Books by freethinkers like Robert Ingersoll /  Albert Schweitzer, Nietzsche
Thoughts by bright scientists like Charles Darwin
Brown paper packages bearing such things
These are a few of my favourite things [ repeat ]
When the minister preaches
When the pope lectures
When their Thoth makes me feel sad
I simply remember my favourite books
And then I don’t feel so bad
If there is a heaven , then I will be there!
If there is a heaven, then so will you!
Nothing of this world, will be remembered
Everything will be made shiny and new
But probably there is, no heaven at all
Gods are imaginary, a failed hypothesis, there is no supernatural realm

Old Writ was made up by the primitive folk, who didn't know a thing

Jammie Bodgers

December 05, 2011 - 05:11 PM
Jammie Bodgers


  Climb every mountain
Read high and low
Read the book of Ken Humphreys
That may set you free

Climb Mount Improbable
Ford every stream
Read the books of Richard Dawkins
Then you’ll find your dream

If you want to be loving, then conclude that hell is a myth
A loving good God, wouldn't do a cruel thing like that!

Climb every mountain
Be sceptical of old Writ
It contains ideas, primitive
You can think better than it

Don’t believe the Bible
It's mostly faction
Only pick out the good bits
Like the Golden rule

A loving God, wouldn’t do hades, he’d take everyone to heaven,
But probably there are no gods, so why worry about them?

How do you solve a problem like the Bible

December 05, 2011 - 04:45 PM
Ghost writer of Hammerstein


'How do you solve a problem like Maria', from the Sound of Music. Is it a codetext? Change 'Maria' to 'Bible' and it fits amazingly well! I wonder if Hammerstein intended that ?
HOW DO YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM LIKE THE BIBLE?
How do you catch is words and pin them down?
How do you define what words mean in the Bible?
A fibbertogodibet, a willow the wisp, a clown?
Many a thing you know you’d like to change there
Many a thing is primitive & barbaric
But how do you make believers stay
And listen to all you say
How do you show they stand [wave] upon the sand?
Oh how do you solve a problem like the Bible?Know that you hold an imaginary god in your hand !
When I’m with it I’m confused, out of focus and bemused
And I never know exactly where I am
Unpredictable as weather, its as fictional as a Carroll
It’s snarling, it’s a demon, it’s a lamb
It’ll out pester any pest, drive a hornet to your nest
It could throw a whirling dervish out of a whirl
Its as gentle as its wild, it’s a riddle to a child
It’s a headache, its barbaric, its superstition

Monday 28 November 2011

The Parable of the unmerciful servant Matt 18v21-35

The king in Matt 18v34 acts most cruelly by sending servant X to torture chambers. Servant X  only sent servant Y to prison.  The king failed to follow the advice of Matt 18v22 to forgive 70 * 7. The King failed to heed the advice in Matt 5v22 anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgement.
In any case the King does not do the most clever thing which would be something like looking at the reasons for the debt crises and trying to find solutions. The king should have sent in a business expert and trained up both X & Y into how to run a profitable company. The king should have restructured the debt so that they could both keep working and paying. Maybe Y could have done some work for X to repay what was due.
In the end the King, V34 commits a crime against humanity by torturing X. Why did the King let the debt of X get so large ? Why did the king not investigate the case and find out the Y owed X. Maybe there were other people who owed X.  Maybe X & Y were suffering ill health or a downturn inthe economy?
The passage is only an example in poor management of a difficult situation. However maybe prison is a valid option to try to influence people into paying proper taxes. But if you believe that people should be treated well then the kings use of torture must be condemned

Sunday 27 November 2011

Parable of the cruel, unmerciful king Matt 18v21-35

Parable of the unmerciful King Matt 18v21-35
  You have a king who forgives the debts of a servant X, then that servant X went and demanded payment from servant Y who owed little and then put him in prison when Y couldn’t pay. The king then was furious when he found out about what X had done and put X in torture chambers until he could repay. The king ended up acting more cruelly than X-he had X tortured, but X only put Y in prison ( which even today is, in appropriate circumstances, viewed as acceptable )
Both servant X and king did not do the most intelligent, pragmatic thing because how is anyone going to be able to repay if they are in prison? The king should have looked at the reasons for the debt crises. He should have asked for a list of debtors to X and found Y owed money and investigated why Y couldn't pay. He could have been like the dragons den dragons and studied the businesses of X & Y to see why they were failing and what could be done to turn them around & make them successful. The king did have a justice system where friends could report the injustice & the king ordered Y released. In a modern world if someone can’t repay then you would have to restructure their repayments- less over a longer time or just accept that it is bad debt. Would a king who had been forgiving in the first place really turn and do the worst possible thing of torturing servant X? To what end? Maybe the torture would so traumatise X that he would never be able to work again and so repay the debt.  Maybe the king knew that his demands were a bit on the high side so felt at ease with writing off some of the debt. The King needed to look into the reasons that X & Y couldn't pay. Ill health? A clever King would have looked for solutions to the debt crisis of both X & Y. Would X have been pushing his luck to ask for a loan to meet short term living costs? If servant X had been earning way more than enough then it wouldn’t have seemed necessary to act against Y. It is a problem in society if too many people refuse to pay their taxes or repay their loans; taxes pay for public services. There are issues about fairtrade. There are also issues about viability of the business. The passage reveals failure by each of the people mentioned to think fully & constructively. The Matt 18v21- story is monstrous. Maybe  it can be a test to see if the reader would spot that the King was acting more cruelly than servant X and since that was preposterous and not in keeping with a king who at first forgave then you are supposed to realise that a loving Heavenly Father god would never act in that way? The king should have realised that it would take more than just writing off the debts of X & Y but they would also need living costs. Y could have worked for X to repay the money. There needs to be a way of getting the money off the debtor without resorting to prison and

Saturday 19 November 2011

THE GREATEST OF THESE IS LOVE

Zytigon

Acts 23v8 & Matt 22v23 says that the Sadducees wisely thought there were no angels or spirits & no resurrection. It looks to me like the supernatural realm is a failed hypothesis but if I am mistaken then I trust that the grace of a loving good God would be sufficient for me and I have faith that nothing shall separate me from the Love that is god, neither threats written by ancient priests who thought a heaven was just above the sky Acts 1v9, nor mini dystopia, will convince me that a good God would ever ask for a human sacrifice or act more cruelly than any human is capable of. For I am convinced that in order to scale the heights of love it is necessary to jettison the damnable doctrine of hell, which is a clanging cymbal & resounding gong to religion and surely represents only the darkest imaginings generated by mans fears. Surely it would be preferable for the likes of Hitler to suffer a heart attack before committing dreadful atrocities and not at all fitting to do worse than him and send him & me to an eternal concentration camp.It is the zeitgeist of civilized nations to want to play a part in cultivating a society that protects one another from abuse and equips the vulnerable with the skills & resources to prevent it. The Bible is a collection of nightmares & dreams by people who saw through a glass darkly. There are greater concepts. (god)

Know it !

Study JNE and see the far side of the Bible. Watch as Ken Humphreys works his magic and the Bibleverse turns from grim reality into funny fiction: The Good book for a laugh.
The Bible is a wordsearch puzzle for errors to ring.


I hope that there's a heaven,
And if there is, we'll all be there,
That probably there's not, doesn't make me despair,
If there was a good God, there would be no hell,
If there was a loving God all would turn out well,
But probably God's are imaginary!
A failed hypothesis!
How am I going to experience anything,
When I've turned back into dust?
see Job 14v10-14

See Ecclesiastes 3v19 "All have the same breath / spirit; man has no advantage over the animal.

If there is a heaven, I’ll be there
If there is a heaven, so will you
Everything of this world will be forgotten ( nothing of this world will be remembered)
Everything will be shiny and new
But probably there is no heaven to go to
And probably there are no Gods at all
And we shall become exactly like them
Perfect in non existence too

If there is a heaven we’ll all be there, nothing else would be fair,
There are some people it might be wished would cease to exist though.

The great Herod scam.

Matt 2v2-12. Magi: "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews?" Herod the Great:"I have no new baby sons, What can you be thinking of? Wait! A thought has just been placed in my head, could this be The Christ? Advisors, do you know anything of The Christ?" Advisors: "Would that be Jesus Christ of Nazareth who was crucified under the rule of your son Herod Antipas, 34 years after you died?" Herod: "Yes, that very one",
 Advisors:" Follow the road to Bethlehem, there you will find him, just round the bend, at '3 Christ was born here St.' in the stable of 'Time for a quickie? Inn'. Herod to Magi;"Did you hear that? Now when you find Christ, return at once & tell me where he is, that I may do something that vaguely fits with a random verse of Septuagint".So off they set, fortunately there were cats eyes to follow as the star mentioned on the plans was bust & they'd also forgotten to note which constellation it was in.
When they arrived at the Inn they asked "Where is Jesus the miracle worker?" Innkeeper:" Sorry, you missed him, they had an appointment to fit in a random verse about Egypt", Magi: "Oh grief, I hope history will be kind to us" Innkeeper, "Yes slip me some prutah & I'll see that you get a glowing write up anyhow, but how you can call yourself wise or even astrologer , let alone astronomers & not mention which constellation the star was in is a mystery, you seem more like Roaming priests"

The people who made up  Matt ch 2v9 forgot that following a real star would lead the Magi  in a spiral path due to Earth turning [maybe that is why they gave up & asked the nearest King], but then they thought Earth was flat & stationary. They thought it was possible for a star to stay stationary but for that the planet would need to stop. Bethlehem is 6 miles south of Jerusalem. Why would they need a star to lead them there? Actually Matt 2v2 just says ' They saw his star in the east '  . Why would they think that a star in the sky signified a Jewish king being born ? V2 doesn't say they followed it to Israel, they just went to the captial because they thought that is where they would find a baby king. How come no one else in the world noticed the star? How come Herod & co didn't go outside and try to see the star or ask the Magi to point it out?
 For a star to hover over a specific house it would need to have been in geostationary orbit round earth and very low. But more probably it needed to be a helicopter or angel but easiest to be fiction.

November 16, 2011 - 05:22 PM That will be shining right


We three kings of orient are,
Travelling in spirals as we follow a star,
Why have we been led to Herod's home?
That seems to us rather dim
Oh star of wonder, star of night,
Is anything in the Bible right?
Read the book of Ken Humphreys
And you will become, far more bright

Also follow the wise words of astronomer Victor J. Stenger, to see the light.

Matt 2v2 If the Magi came from Persia they would have needed a star in the west (not east,just wait til dawn?) for it to guide them to Jerusalem. Maybe the Magi were from Rome & looked toward Israel in evening & saw Jupiter in the east hanging over Jerusalem?
The star had been so vague that they gave up & asked the nearest king for directions.Oddly Herod told them where to find Christ, then asked them to return to tell him were Christ was. Then the star became lazer guided and swung from low in the west to low in the south to lead them 6 miles south down the road to Bethlehem. So was it an angel or a satellite sucked back in time from 2011 or a bright idea? If an angel, then why did they say it rose? Were Magi in the habit of travelling at night?


October 21, 2011 - 05:10 PM Fractured Images

The nearly last cross words of Christ : My God, My God why have you forsaken me ?
Roman soldier: Look mate, I’ve just been reading this antique scroll by Plato & it would appear that the Greeks just made up the whole idea of Hades. They were just playing around with some notions, trying to imagine what could be the worst that could happen to you after you died & they thought - well eternal torture. So cheer up, Hades probably never existed
Jesus: God Almighty, what have I done? I need a drink!
Jesus to people: Forgive me, I didn’t know what I was saying.
People: Don’t worry, we didn’t really believe you anyway, we thought you had a screw loose.
God, shouting down from sky: You Nazi minded man, fancy telling people I’d put anyone in an eternal concentration camp, I‘m not Hitler. There is nothing to worry about, you’ll cease to exist any minute now. [ actually this didn’t really happen, I just inserted it to make the story more believable, of course God is really just imaginary ]
Jesus: I’m finished


October 21, 2011 - 03:35 PM Christmocker Columbus

I've embarked on a voyage, upon the seven seas
To cross the far horizon, that many call hades.
Some say to travel there is madness, I'll fall into a pit
But I'm really quite enjoying this, I'll travel on a bit
The black clouds are behind me, back there was so dark
I'm basking in the sunshine, travelling in my Neshmet barque
The Maat it is by me, being careful enough is the way [ maybe more smart, clever, brave ]
I've recited spell 99: JNE, gods spell broken, I see the light of day
I've read the book of the dead & reversed the 'living' Bible
Investigating all the pros & cons, not bowing to an idle
I've set sail for nowhere but am finding a promising land
Like Cpt Jack Sparrow, sword of truth in hand, to slay the squid monster, that's what's planned


October 21, 2011 - 04:15 PM Dragons Den Dragon:Zeus

  I've studied the frankly appalling plans of Theos and Allah to throw the ones they've turned down into Hades, to roll balls up hills for ever more, and I've decided, that is just unacceptable.To be honest, they alone are worthy of hades. They have no imagination.
I can see the potential in these entrepreneurs. They have real get up and go and refuse to be cowed by the threats of doom dished out by primates. I've stepped in & done a deal, bought Hades off Theos & Allah for a pittance, and I'm going to turn it into an upmarket underworld nightclub of hedonistic delights. No more weeping & gnashing, it's going to be fun fun fun. Hades is going to be the new seventh heaven . No Titans just Tits. The new wine is on me.

Friday 4 November 2011

The Goddess of universalist atheism

, If there is a good Goddess, and if there is a heaven we will all be there. So see you there then ? If I find myself before some pearly gates then I expect that the unknown Goddess will greet us thus, " Welcome my poor darlings, I'm so terribly sorry for all the suffering you've had. Things just got out of control, I never intended it to end up like that, of course it's all my fault, do forgive me. Now if you all come along in, I've tell you the whole story. Don't worry, the nightmare is over, everything is going to be ok now. You see I was a bit bored so I asked my husband to get out and make a universe for our retirement. So there he is out pottering about one minute & the next he only just goes & blows himself up. Well, imagine my amazement at the unfolding of the universe & life on earth. Of course i was horrified at the suffering on earth but had to stand at the edge aghast & frustrated that I couldn't do anything due to not knowing how to enter that dimension. I have been absolutely  appalled by some of the things people imagined we might have been like. It was one big accident you know, entirely unintentional. I would never have done hell. No, no, The people like Billy Graham who went stomping around declaring that damnable doctrine was a certainty were committing grave psycho logical abuse. Those who preached it were the ones most worthy of it. They should have been forgiving & non condemning. However it has been a very confusing experience for you, so hardly surprising that various daft theories developed. Oh well, thank god that is all behind you now.



The yes men of the doctrine of hell will possibly spend Aeons on the next planet as monkeys and we can throw bananas at them, or maybe  they'll be donkeys and we'll ride them along the beach or maybe they'll be  non poisonous snakes in the grass to avoid. Or maybe they'll be mice preaching sermons to each other: "Blessed are they who squeak for they shall inherit the cheese". Meanwhile those who recognize a higher morality,a more loving caring way than the Bible offers will reign as Queens & kings

Monday 31 October 2011

The Church of the Incredible son of god and the latter day rationalists

Hello & welcome to all  incredulous people joining on-line today. I believe that if there was a good God then everyone would either go to heaven or cease to exist. If there was a heaven we would all go there because a good God would save everyone. However I think there is probably no god and everyone will cease to exist.I think there is no supernatural realm. The absence of evidence for God etc is evidence of absence. Today we will be trying to assist you in the quest for all truth. This is the church where we put all the cards on the table & don't miss a trick.

 Now let us join together in singing  songs ( as always; adjust words to suit yourself }:

Wholly, wholly, wholly
Wholly imaginary
God never existed
 There's no supernatural realm to fear.

One faith, one hope, one true vision. True hope is that everything will turn out ok for everyone- no hades. True vision is a concept of imaginary godliness which desires the health & well being & happiness of humanity

The church's sure foundation has turned out to be sand
The waves of evolution will knock it to the ground
What once was feared as likely
Now seems impossible
And folk can relax & enjoy their life cause DC bust the Bible

He's got the whole blame on his hands, he's got everybody's suffering on his hands
He's got withholding information on his hands, he's got damnable doctrines on his hands

  songs in need of further tweaking, adjust to suit yourself
               If there was a  loving god everything would turn out alright
               But the bible is largely flaming shite [ quite interesting though when you don't believe ]
               Especially the flames of hell
               Dare like Red Adair & blow out that roman candle

              If Jesus could save one, he'd save everyone
              But probably we don't need saved at all
              We've used our heads & figur ed
              that hades didn't exist at all

               I was lied to but John told the truth Yes DC told the  whole truth
               I was lied to but WIBA told the truth  to  me

               There is no redeemer, Jesus never lived
               But it doesn't matter, we didn't need one anyway
               Thanks to all those scholars who studied honestly
                And didn't follow priestcraft into insanity

               And did those feet in ancient times, walk upon Israel's dusty land ??